The Priest The Woman And The Confessional Father Chiniquy Books
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The Priest The Woman And The Confessional Father Chiniquy Books
This is a book that was written before the Father Charles Chiniquy wrote his "tell all" book entitled "Twenty-five Years in the Church of Rome". This book, to me, actually doesn't address the subject matter any better than the aforementioned book. Mr. Chiniquy actually never specifically reveals what the questions are that are so vile and soul-defiling that women either turn to "tramp-dom" or commit suicide. It seems vague in that respect plus he quotes a lot of Latin references and things that I haven't the foggiest idea what he is saying. I did enjoy reading the book for the most part. It detailed and concentrated on the Confessional and the Catholic ritual of confession from the first confession at 12 or 13 years old all the way through to the "last rites" for the dying. I believe it may either infuriate or educate you concerning the practices of the Roman Catholic Church.All-in-all, using the imagination, I think one can arrive at a reasonable translation of the words and innuendo as a whole. I won't get into the "25 years" book since this isn't a review of it, but it would be a great enhancement to this reading.
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The Priest The Woman And The Confessional Father Chiniquy Books Reviews
I may post a review of this nutty book later, and its misunderstandings of the purpose of confession( invented to give celibate priests a thrill, Chiniquy would have us believe). I will only note now that some of the following is taken out of context, similar to the misuse of the Talmud by anti-Semites, and some seems to have been just made up.
However, I think the modern reader can take the end chapter without hiding it in Latin. I would like a full understanding of what is said, so an informed debate can take place. So
Dens
1. "Ask if wives have ever attempted to expel semen received from their husbands. Have they ever been successful?" (Dens, tom. Vii., p.147.)
2. "Counsel spouses that they mortally sin if they should hinder insemination after they have begun intercourse."
3. "There is uncertainty, however, if, when a man ejaculates prematurely, it is a mortal sin for the woman to withdraw before she is properly inseminated; or if the husband mortally sins by not waiting to ejaculate into his wife." (p.153.)
4. "Spouses can sin between themselves in regard to the conjugal act. The correct method and site of intercourse must be maintained. Indeed, they should be counseled that the vagina must not be hindered in receiving that which it was created to receive. Additionally, they should be warned that intercourse must not be engaged in any perverse manner, or in any unnatural way. Examples of perverse positions are intercourse approached from the back or side, by standing or sitting, or if the husband is on his back." (p.166.)
5. "Impotency in a man is his incapacity to complete the act of intercourse. Physical intercourse is completed when the man's ejaculation is received into the vagina. To be more specific, intercourse must be for the purpose of procreation only. Impotency is not the same for women, however. A woman may be said to be unable to have successful intercourse with a man because her vagina is too narrow to accept his member, but that is not necessarily the case were she to have intercourse with another man." (p.273.)
6. "It is noted that a woman may be defiled [i.e., experience orgasm w/o proper intercourse] when the semen she receives flows outside her genital area. Billuart alleges evidence of this when he writes For the woman, there is an intense gratification when, during sex, she feels semen released." (Vol. iv., p.168.)
7. "When a wife accuses herself in confession for refusing intercourse that she is bound to perform, ask her if it is because she believes it is her prerogative and right to do so." (Vol. vii., p.168.)
8. "The confessor is under obligation to ask the penitent who confesses to have sinned with a priest, or has been solicited by a priest for base actions, whether that priest was her confessor, and if so, whether he solicited her in a confessional." (Vol. vi., p.294.)
Liguori
1. "Let us ask, Is it always a mortal sin if a husband puts the vulva of his wife into his mouth? I affirm it to be very sinful because in this act dangerous defilement can occur due to the warmth of the mouth. Besides, this bizarre sort of pleasure seems so obviously to be against nature. This act is frequently called chewing the cud."
2. "Similarly, Sanchez condemns as mortal sin the act of a husband who, in the act of intercourse, ejaculates his manhood into the inverted vagina of his wife, because, as Sanchez states, In this manner there is the disposition toward Sodomy." (Liguori, tom. Vi., p.935.)
Burchard (men)
1. "Have you fornicated alone, by yourself, as some are known to do? By this I mean, have you sought pleasure by taking your manhood into your hand, protracting the foreskin, then moving it vigorously with your own hand, so that you ejaculate semen?"
2. "Have you fornicated with another male between his thighs? By this I mean, have you ever put your manhood between the thighs of the other, and through vigorous movement ejaculated semen?"
3. "Have you ever fornicated, as certain men are accustomed to do, by placing your member into a wooden hole, or something similar, then, by your movement, pleasure increases, resulting in your ejaculation?"
4. "Have you ever fornicated against nature; that is, by engaging in intercourse with other men or with animals, such as a horse, cow, donkey or some other animal? (Vol. i., p.136.)
Burchard (women)
1. "Have you done what certain women are accustomed to do; namely, use an instrument shaped like the male member, exerting great effort to achieve pleasure by playing with your venerable parts, or also with the venerable parts of another, or by using the instrument to join the two of you together, so that you have fornicated with another woman or women by using the same instrument?"
2. "Have you done what certain women are accustomed to do, as mentioned above, and ever fornicated with yourself, alone, by using some instrument?"
3. "Have you done what certain women are accustomed to do when they wish to satisfy a desire vexing them? They join themselves together as if to have intercourse, pressing their genitals together, so that, by rubbing, they satisfy their lustful craving.?"
4. "Have you done what certain women are accustomed to do; namely, lay down with some beast of burden and then, by whatever means, join yourself with that animal so that intercourse may be achieved?"
Debreyne (men)
"Have they touched themselves to the point of defilement? When did they do so? Why did they do so? In what way did they touch themselves? For how long? Did it culminate in anything base? Or did they stop short of defilement? Was the pleasure greater at the end then it was at the beginning? Did they remain motionless as they felt great carnal delight at the end? Did it result in their being soaked?, and etc."
Debreyne (women)
Women who confess to having touched themselves are to be asked whether or not they tried to gratify some lustful craving, did they feel great pleasure as a result of their touching themselves; did they satisfy that craving, or does that craving still exist?"&c., &c.
Kenrick
1. ( Uxor quae) "While in the marriage act if a wife turns herself so as not to receive the semen; or, if she rises up immediately after it has been received for the purpose of expelling it, she sins mortally. However, it isn't necessary for her to lie supine for a long time while the womb draws in the semen. A short time will be sufficient because the womb soon closes tightly." (Vol. iii., p.317.)
2. "It is allowable for a girl, who, while being raped, to turn herself and try not to receive the semen because injury is being done against her; but it isn't allowable for her to expel the semen received if she has already secured possession of it in her womb. Casting the semen out at that time would be harmful to the law of nature."
3.( Conjuges senes) "Elderly spouses generally have intercourse without our finding any fault. In their case, it is allowable for the semen to be expelled outside the vagina. Indeed, this occurs accidentally because of the weakness of nature."
The truth shall set you free! It is imperitive to know the truth - you are better equipt to make a decive choice!
Eye opener!
This book gives individuals the opportunity to understand the purpose of the confessional. How something appears, what one is lead to believe or taught can be different from reality. The information presented allows one to make an informed decision.
Quite overzealous and redundant reasons for ridding the church of aricular confession
Informative and thought provoking. I agree with the main premise. The book is, however, too long and wordy for me, though the date of the writing probably has something to do with that.
I really liked this book! Especially how auricular confession and the dangers there - in. I never realized the pitfalls that happen. The author was a priest for 25 years and that should qualify him for knowing what happens first hand.
At the end he reviews writings of our church fathers (St Jerome, St. Augustine, Chrystotom.... etc.) for a thousand years and notes that they forbade auricular confession! Very Good.
This is a book that was written before the Father Charles Chiniquy wrote his "tell all" book entitled "Twenty-five Years in the Church of Rome". This book, to me, actually doesn't address the subject matter any better than the aforementioned book. Mr. Chiniquy actually never specifically reveals what the questions are that are so vile and soul-defiling that women either turn to "tramp-dom" or commit suicide. It seems vague in that respect plus he quotes a lot of Latin references and things that I haven't the foggiest idea what he is saying. I did enjoy reading the book for the most part. It detailed and concentrated on the Confessional and the Catholic ritual of confession from the first confession at 12 or 13 years old all the way through to the "last rites" for the dying. I believe it may either infuriate or educate you concerning the practices of the Roman Catholic Church.
All-in-all, using the imagination, I think one can arrive at a reasonable translation of the words and innuendo as a whole. I won't get into the "25 years" book since this isn't a review of it, but it would be a great enhancement to this reading.
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